tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post1037883859971540714..comments2024-03-28T17:17:52.949+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Who is NOT over-promoted, in the over-promoted societyBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-73546651928636802782012-12-01T06:52:27.162+00:002012-12-01T06:52:27.162+00:00@SJ - Female physicians of my generation who marry...@SJ - Female physicians of my generation who marry, are apparently more fertile than similarly intelligent women - but still average below replacement not least because of the number (unmarried etc) with zero fertility. <br /><br />@GG - tipping point. Graceful decline could theoretically be managed easily enough - but not by democracy, and not by a secular society. <br /><br />@bankers - Thanks for this interesting snippet. But I should clarify that financial derivatives did not cause the crash - the crash was caused (and is being sustained and worsened - while being denied) by mainstream secular Leftism. <br /><br />Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-63860051494586946662012-12-01T06:21:50.198+00:002012-12-01T06:21:50.198+00:00Also, I think a lot of them have become psychopath...Also, I think a lot of them have become psychopathic. The smartest person I know got rich inventing the financial derivatives that caused the crash. In fairness before that he had no real options and was constantly being beaten down by society.bankersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-64874242195599371152012-12-01T00:48:37.343+00:002012-12-01T00:48:37.343+00:00It's physical/biological. Like Dr Francis Pott...It's physical/biological. Like Dr Francis Pottenger showed with cat diet experiments in the 1930's, vitality declines rapidly in successive generations on a cooked/unnatural diet. And it takes a few generations on raw/natural diet to recover vitality. Humans are now 3-4 generations on denatured foods, and it's going to take time and a conscious effort to turn it around. That's why immigrants are regularly described as full of energy.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPCOGSnjP5w#t=183s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPCOGSnjP5w#t=183s</a>Michael Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-85696185874623637252012-11-30T23:23:49.185+00:002012-11-30T23:23:49.185+00:00What are the chances of this phenomenon leading to...What are the chances of this phenomenon leading to a slow decline vs some sort tipping point leading to large systematic collapses?George Goerlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07916687977887167466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-73660492298082676032012-11-30T22:46:25.496+00:002012-11-30T22:46:25.496+00:00I think the evidence suggests that the most intell...<i> I think the evidence suggests that the most intelligent women have had low (sub-replacement) fertility for several generations - many having zero children, and an average of less than one child per woman.</i><br /><br />Here's a question for you, Bruce: what's been your experience with female physicians? Because my experience has been that they absolutely buck this trend of intelligent women having fewer children. I have brought this up on other blogs and come to the sort of tentative conclusion that women doctors are "different" for some reason, but I'm not sure why.Samson J.http://samsonsjawbone.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-75610266310236983752012-11-30T20:20:35.045+00:002012-11-30T20:20:35.045+00:00I guess what I'm not sure of is the necessity ...I guess what I'm not sure of is the necessity of absolute numbers. It seems that if there were too few people to maintain, then the visionary breakthrough would be a way to maintain with fewer people. Maybe that's just incremental improvement?Roger Uhttp://nclinksandthinks.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-1827032595844403802012-11-30T19:36:08.185+00:002012-11-30T19:36:08.185+00:00@RU - There is dilution; but I think the evidence ...@RU - There is dilution; but I think the evidence suggests that the most intelligent women have had low (sub-replacement) fertility for several generations - many having zero children, and an average of less than one child per woman. Therefore, fewer very intelligent people. Assortative mating for intelligence (smart people marrying each other) would have increased this effect. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-19400539701157235712012-11-30T19:15:06.571+00:002012-11-30T19:15:06.571+00:00I have been reading your over -promoted society pi...I have been reading your over -promoted society pieces with interest. I was thinking, however, that its not that there are less people to make the breakthroughs, but that these people are busy maintaining the existing complexity. That our society is so complex, especially our dependence on technology to communicate and do business, that the bright, creative people are busy putting out fires and expanding the existing tech to more areas. That maintenance takes a higher level of ability than it did 100 years ago.<br /><br />I agree that the average level of IQ has dropped, but I think it is because of dilution as the lower IQ population is able to breed freely without having to support themselves. Infant mortality is down and life expectancy is up.<br /><br />I have not thought as much about this is you have, though, maybe I'm missing something or I'm diluting this blog!Roger Uhttp://nclinksandthinks.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com