tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post107559380957545480..comments2024-03-29T15:13:42.610+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Why can't we remember our pre-mortal existence? - Why are we out-of-contact with Heaven?Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-36058942903589507452014-11-25T08:38:13.097+00:002014-11-25T08:38:13.097+00:00Similar to what Adam said, I think memory is highl...Similar to what Adam said, I think memory is highly context dependent. I find it much easier to remember other dreams when I'm dreaming, and much easier to remember something in a dream when I happen to be thinking about a similar thing. If the soul leaves the body at night and returns in the morning there is no reason to think a similar process isn't at work with pre-mortal souls. If there are pre-mortal souls I think the best option for remembering pre-natal experience is to reorient yourself to the context in which they exist.<br /><br />This makes me wonder what kind of context is necessary for remembering the future or events that have not happened.Heavisidenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-53109330637902125622014-11-25T05:26:33.606+00:002014-11-25T05:26:33.606+00:00@pyrr - The problem for that explanation, on its o...@pyrr - The problem for that explanation, on its own, is that the amnesic block is not complete - and in some instances there is not a block. Indeed, the people without an amnesic block are often among the most devout. So I do not think it can be the correct (or full, or main) explanation. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-71722849064665845172014-11-25T05:02:26.842+00:002014-11-25T05:02:26.842+00:00The block is to ensure we fully experience this li...The block is to ensure we fully experience this life without knowledge that would destroy the validity of the experience in developing our soul. In other words, when we experience loss of a child, for example, the pain is real and intense, which develops our empathy. That would not be true if we knew the child's soul was immortal and immediately returned to the spirit world. pyrrhushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06150605108788285274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-89182768221332643982014-11-23T18:44:10.859+00:002014-11-23T18:44:10.859+00:00@pyrrhus - What would be your explanation for this...@pyrrhus - What would be your explanation for this amnesiac block? Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-70899024491554834112014-11-23T18:02:11.317+00:002014-11-23T18:02:11.317+00:00There is an amnesiac block, which is sometimes wea...There is an amnesiac block, which is sometimes weak in young children who spontaneously remember heaven. For adults, sophisticated hypnotherapy techniques can sometimes allow recollection of the spirit world. See Dr. Michael Newton's Destiny of Souls, for example.pyrrhushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06150605108788285274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-19474129305171619982014-11-23T17:45:47.641+00:002014-11-23T17:45:47.641+00:00@Adam - I'm glad you find it plausible.
(As ...@Adam - I'm glad you find it plausible. <br /><br />(As you know) It is - for me - one of the trickiest problems of Christianity to explain why mortal life is both very significant and yet not everything. <br /><br />Also, our explanation of mortal life has to cover a wider range of lives than usually considered - e.g. including lives when the only experience is to be incarnated then immediately die. <br /><br />I find Christianity profoundly non-bimodal. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-82725685179302139552014-11-23T14:07:01.592+00:002014-11-23T14:07:01.592+00:00Then I think you're probably right. We Mormon...Then I think you're probably right. We Mormons tend to conceptualize spirit life as just the same as mortal life, except on a different plane. But this isn't a dogma or revealed doctrine, and I'm pretty sure it's wrong. First, the need for embodiment suggests something pretty significantly different about having a body. Second, all the experience we have with experiences that don' involve are body--I'm thinking about dreams, visions, being lost in thought, and out-of-body experiences, show that they are full of symbolism and meaning, less limited than mortal experience, but therefore also less definite and defined.Adam G.http://www.jrganymede.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-47263661743207839382014-11-23T06:14:45.543+00:002014-11-23T06:14:45.543+00:00@Adam - Yes, that's the idea.@Adam - Yes, that's the idea. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-90924815697784025612014-11-23T04:17:15.417+00:002014-11-23T04:17:15.417+00:00Bruce,
Here is one answer you will appreciate: w...Bruce,<br /><br />Here is one answer you will appreciate: we are constantly distracted. Think ADD/ADHD on a societal scale, perhaps on a cosmic scale. Leonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-87326448825145319772014-11-22T22:47:59.890+00:002014-11-22T22:47:59.890+00:00If I understand you, you are saying that mortal ex...If I understand you, you are saying that mortal existence and purely spiritual existence must occur in quite different modes, or else there would be no real need for a fully immersed mortal experience like we're having. But existing in quite different modes, we will find it difficult to recall or understand our spiritual existence while we are mortal. It's like trying to be in a dream state while waking, or trying to remember what its like to be hungry when you are full.Adam G.http://www.jrganymede.comnoreply@blogger.com