tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post1792226824436175636..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Attack the assumptions - not particular abuses. The counter-productive effect of mainstream outrage at *specific* lies and other corruptionsBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-36919701518789705282022-08-16T19:19:31.352+01:002022-08-16T19:19:31.352+01:00The Classic example of this:
'Dems are the re...The Classic example of this:<br /><br />'Dems are the real racists'cecil1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-62198966446049621002022-08-14T06:37:25.430+01:002022-08-14T06:37:25.430+01:00@D - Sadly, there is not much need to 'control...@D - Sadly, there is not much need to 'control' this kind of opposition: it controls itself, by its own shallow motivations. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-30761951906037220462022-08-14T05:50:31.518+01:002022-08-14T05:50:31.518+01:00This is an insightful post. I thought it was valu...This is an insightful post. I thought it was valuable in helping me see what the purpose of "controlled opposition" was. Although I'm guessing that this type of lie could be/is much more pervasive than just in the context of controlled opposition?<br />Dynamicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-55165504862392734702022-08-12T15:49:21.756+01:002022-08-12T15:49:21.756+01:00@WmJas - Yes, serially recording and denigrating a...@WmJas - Yes, serially recording and denigrating abuses very clearly, it seems to me, leads nowhere and is counter-reproductive. And this happens especially when the abuses are defined and analyzed using the backdrop of assumed-valid mainstream systems. And this is the stock-in-trade of the secular right - as well as mainstream media. <br /><br />But specific abuses *can* be framed as an instance of a general phenomenon, or a specific abuse can be pursued down the rabbit hole, to demonstrate the caverns of corruption that lie beneath. <br /><br />In other words, assumptions need to be primary. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-35753434632817687862022-08-12T14:44:48.157+01:002022-08-12T14:44:48.157+01:00I partly agree. Specific abuses have to be exposed...I partly agree. Specific abuses have to be exposed and discussed because they are often (going by my own experience here) instrumental in the realization that the whole system is corrupt. Details must be discussed, because everything else is just abstraction. But, in order to avoid the "praising with faint damns" effect you describe, discussion of specific abuses must be framed properly: "Here's yet another example of how the system is corrupt and can't be trusted," not, "The system must rectify this particular abuse and make itself fully trustworthy again." Wm Jas Tychonievichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446790072877463982noreply@blogger.com