tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2051714519344505133..comments2024-03-28T16:35:26.665+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: That Antichrist feeling...Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-91969497565670062712019-01-14T06:29:54.423+00:002019-01-14T06:29:54.423+00:00@Seijio - Yes - probably Mormonism tends towards t...@Seijio - Yes - probably Mormonism tends towards the worldly; as a mirror of traditional Plato-rooted theology collapsing into the disregard of mortal life - both of these tending to eliminate the need for Jesus. <br /><br />I think it is a deep fact about any philosophical description of Christianity that it is a simplified distortion - and if taken as primary, and extrapolated rationally - this will always lead into error. <br /><br />But Mormonism is actually rooted in the 'family metaphor' - but as a 'literal' truth. It is only after reducing the family relationships to abstractions that transhumanism can subvert Mormonism. <br /><br />When God is known as a person, Jesus is a person, life is about loving relationships stretching to eternity etc... well, there is no place for technological usurpation. Life just is Not About anything that technology could do. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-13175679828263838132019-01-14T02:29:45.498+00:002019-01-14T02:29:45.498+00:00After reading McMurrin it occured to me that Mormo...After reading McMurrin it occured to me that Mormonism is somewhat more vulnerable to transhumanist-type ideology since its theology has a common-sense-materialist flavour (rather than traditional theology which has either a Platonic or an Aristotelian flavour and corresponding differing vulnerabilities). Thus a dishonest person could foment deliberate confusion between the Mormon ideals of resurrected biological immortality and settlement of new worlds and the secular ideals of transhuman/technological immortality and space colonization.Seijio Arakawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615803270163614513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-24146413529109933292019-01-13T21:19:07.500+00:002019-01-13T21:19:07.500+00:00@Freddie - Yes indeed - that reminds me of why I h...@Freddie - Yes indeed - that reminds me of why I hate the oft-repeated mantra that we (or 'Christians') ought-to give everybody The Benefit of the Doubt<br /><br />https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/02/innocent-until-proven-guilty-i-regret.html<br /><br />That would be just about the worst thing we could possibly do. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-15805441168864753722019-01-13T18:09:21.534+00:002019-01-13T18:09:21.534+00:00@William - Thanks!
@A - "I find that my inte...@William - Thanks!<br /><br />@A - "I find that my interest in a cultural product disappears when I sense that leftism was the creator's highest priority." - Same here. And - with the mainstream - that is a case of 'sooner or later' - because it always happens when anything is prolonged (a series of any kind), no matter how good something is to start with. <br /><br />TTRN - I havent come across that book, but found a free version here<br /><br />http://www.banner.org.uk/media/books/War_on_the_Saints.pdfBruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-57207914593763418792019-01-13T18:00:32.896+00:002019-01-13T18:00:32.896+00:00Exactly. It is like Catholic leaders or mainline ...Exactly. It is like Catholic leaders or mainline Protestant leaders talk about things resembling Christianity or the Truth, but you sense something wrong, and you finally identify something within them that just WANTS the destruction of the Good and the Beautiful. It does not come from the Head; it comes from the Chest and Stomach (what classically we call the "Heart," but the term is overused, so I use other terms more illustrative).Freddy Martinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07503658203357240239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-2198347387923641342019-01-13T13:35:20.813+00:002019-01-13T13:35:20.813+00:00If you haven’t read it yet, you might find some va...If you haven’t read it yet, you might find some value in the book “War on the saints” - Jessie Penn-Lewis ToTheRightRonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14007446934544325981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-8401437317616758692019-01-13T12:52:33.312+00:002019-01-13T12:52:33.312+00:00I find that my interest in a cultural product disa...I find that my interest in a cultural product disappears when I sense that leftism was the creator's highest priority. That must be similar to what you're saying. <br /><br />If people go to fiction for a sense of escape, of transcendence, leftism intrinsically constrains that. There is no impulse to continue reading or watching at that point - it's "all the same thing."<br /><br />Incidentally, I had the opposite of the anti-Christ feeling when I watched Kanye West talk with Trump at the White House. He only rambled excitedly for a couple minutes, but it was the first time I've ever heard a celebrity speak from the heart. It seemed like he was bubbling over with something he'd been keeping inside, hidden. Naturally, the entire American media called it 'sad' and 'mentally ill.' And he's bipolar, apparently, but whatever...Epimetheushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00544393899043550896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-32088202675619133222019-01-13T12:15:36.295+00:002019-01-13T12:15:36.295+00:00Another great piece, Bruce. This describes my feel...Another great piece, Bruce. This describes my feelings about so much in the modern world to perfection.<br /><br />"Surface plausibility, reasonableness, persuasiveness, enjoyability... yet all the time, underneath, nagging away at me - there a revulsion, a rising tide of suspicion. The 'balance' of 'evidence' suggests that these are 'well-meaning' people, saying things that have 'some value'... yet from the start, and all the time, there is this drum-beat of inner rejection."<br /><br />The devil often disguises himself as an angel of light but there is always a nagging sense of something wrong if you are true to truth.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.com