tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2341304843594027862..comments2024-03-29T12:03:37.344+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: The attitude to Pride divides the Christian perspective from othersBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-47546656833344923942016-01-28T21:21:02.408+00:002016-01-28T21:21:02.408+00:00@Carter - " Pride while also abandoning Ego&q...@Carter - " Pride while also abandoning Ego" and vice versa. Agreed. <br /><br />Egotism is more like 'conceit' - having a high opinion of oneself - which is a much more minor sin, and dissociable from Pride. <br /><br />Unacknowledged, undetected spiritual Pride is a major problem of Eastern, ego-extinguishing religions. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-77263360111868725682016-01-28T18:42:24.932+00:002016-01-28T18:42:24.932+00:00I'd argue that a person could, in fact, have P...I'd argue that a person could, in fact, have Pride while also abandoning Ego. Surrendering your since of self to 'something' doesn't mean you are surrendering your self to God.<br /><br />There are lots of religions that tackle the notion of immolating Ego but don't address contrite and sincere repentance before God.<br /><br />- Carter CraftAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-25807209581293330692016-01-27T14:35:18.820+00:002016-01-27T14:35:18.820+00:00Yes, I would agree that pride is deeper than ego b...Yes, I would agree that pride is deeper than ego but it surely derives from it or they are part of the same thing which is the exaltation of the separate self.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-37860491154843043162016-01-27T14:00:04.589+00:002016-01-27T14:00:04.589+00:00@William - No, Pride isn't ego. It is much dee...@William - No, Pride isn't ego. It is much deeper than that. I'll try and express it differently...<br /><br />Pride is (implicitly, seldom explicitly - except perhaps in the case of Satan) understanding and rejecting Christ's offer of salvation lived in the context of God's created reality; because you hate that reality and your subordinate place in it; and the desire instead to inhabit your own (tiny, isolated) reality, where you can set and live-by your own rules. <br /><br />And, on top of that, to regard your own tiny self-created reality as *objectively* superior to God's; such that you feel justified (and 'virtuous') in wrecking God's reality - to the greatest extent you can; and also in wrecking other people's chance of happiness in God's reality - to the greatest extent you can. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-2096034123286646642016-01-27T12:52:09.446+00:002016-01-27T12:52:09.446+00:00Is pride the same as ego? If so, other religions d...Is pride the same as ego? If so, other religions do have a similar understanding of what constitutes the greatest barrier between Man and God. But it is absolutely true that only Christianity really gets to grips with the sin of pride, and I think this is because only Christianity fully understands both the fact and the consequences of the Fall. Also, the Christian remedy for pride, humble submission to the God of love as revealed in and through the person of Christ, is by far the best there is. Maybe the only one there really is.<br /><br />The modern world is built on pride which has been transformed into a virtue. In its wake follow anger, hatred and fear, all of which, disguised and dressed up to look respectable, are the prime motivating forces behind so much that is going on in the world today. And all this follows on from the rejection of God. We need some good, old fashioned prophets thundering from the mountain top. Or maybe through a blog!William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.com