tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2578707609003138281..comments2024-03-29T12:03:37.344+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Communications between my waking and dreaming self - and with angels and the pre-mortal selfBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-38541129744285906152014-07-02T21:33:10.827+01:002014-07-02T21:33:10.827+01:00@Ara - Yes, I have a hunch that the unremembered d...@Ara - Yes, I have a hunch that the unremembered dreams of deep sleep - which I imagine to be as slow and simple as REM-sleep dreams are the opposite - are probably the most important - did we but remember them!<br /><br />When dropping off to REM-dreaming sleep then waking up - the dropping off to sleep is like stepping onto a fast moving conveyor belt - or into a fast moving stream - or whisked into a whirl of happenings... except that when you wake up a moment later almost no time has passed. <br /><br />Obviously, this was the basis of fairy time (as Narnia) - as Tolkien remarked in his Fairy Stories essay. Lothlorien was the opposite. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-35564960026799647612014-07-02T19:33:39.476+01:002014-07-02T19:33:39.476+01:00This raises some interesting ideas. About dreaming...This raises some interesting ideas. About dreaming, I have two conflicting understandings, that I am always dreaming (the loss of consciousness during deep-sleep is an illusion), vs. that 'dreaming' occurs during a short REM phase of the night, and is energy-intensive. Obviously, I am more aware of REM dreams than non-REM ones, and more aware of lucid dreams than of ordinary REM dreams. Lucid dreams are also more energy-intensive to have than ordinary dreams, such that one feels less well-rested after a lucid dream.<br /><br />However, if one thinks of it in terms of synchronizing two frames of reference (as an intrinsically difficult thing to accomplish), then the hierarchy of 'effort' in terms of the various types of dreams makes more sense.Seijio Arakawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615803270163614513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-74829785403429327522014-07-01T16:48:31.624+01:002014-07-01T16:48:31.624+01:00@Ara - This isn't a theory - it is phenomenolo...@Ara - This isn't a theory - it is phenomenology - a report of subjective experience. <br /><br />So, the way of including lucid dreaming is to describe accurately what it feels like in terms of the waking self communicating with the dreaming self. <br /><br />I have only had one real lucid dream, and the way it worked for me was that the waking self made certain key decisions about the 'plot' of the dream, then observed the dream unfold autonomously from that point - then made another intervention. It seemed very unreal/ dreamlike. <br /><br />My hunch would be that lucid dreaming felt like an abnormally slowed-down dream; a dream going at only about the same speed as the waking self - therefore the dream was both comprehensible and memorable, and could be influenced in a 'real time' sort of way. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-35949808416740681492014-07-01T16:15:20.851+01:002014-07-01T16:15:20.851+01:00In this theory, what do you make of the phenomenon...In this theory, what do you make of the phenomenon of lucid dreaming?Seijio Arakawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615803270163614513noreply@blogger.com