tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post3771694825668003107..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: The polarity of self and persona - an ultimate realityBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-40849250627307156502016-05-12T10:51:10.838+01:002016-05-12T10:51:10.838+01:00@David
Yes, the persona is the seat of vices - b...@David <br /><br />Yes, the persona is the seat of vices - but the ego and attachments are not bad things as such; not for a Christian. For a Christian there must be a self (which at least overlaps with the ego) and the aim is love (which is an attachment) - the wish to extinguish the ego and attachments is a wish to annihilate self-consciousness and return to the original participation of young childhood. <br /><br />This is not an evil wish, but it is certainly not what God most wants for us, and why we (and the rest of reality) were created - it amounts to a failure of creation, and pressing the reset button. <br /><br />"the true self is the seat of real intelligence or g and free will or agency" - yes, but recognizing that our explicit public understanding of these things is as partial and distorted 'models' and not the truth - the truth of these things is available only to imagination and not communicable by perceptual means. <br />Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-35913334450768102462016-05-12T10:30:41.622+01:002016-05-12T10:30:41.622+01:00Some clarifying questions:
Presumably it is the p...Some clarifying questions:<br /><br />Presumably it is the persona that is the seat of the ego (and therefore by extension it is the seat of the tendency to vices and attachments including greed, lust, pride, etc. that set out in error to satisfy and develop an attachment to the false self or persona but only strengthen them selves and are never truely sated) because we mistake this false self for our actual selves?<br /><br />Presumably also the true self is the seat of real intelligence or g and free will or agency whilst the persona cannot react with anything more that rote, mechanical operations? So truely therefore the self is the 'ghost in the machine' that in this horrifying computer technology obsessed era the persona is not overriding as a fiction, so entirely and rigidly identified as we generally are now with the persona!David Balfourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099160562774064281noreply@blogger.com