tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post4941961964880785539..comments2024-03-28T17:44:11.289+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Why the people of the West are being replacedBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-50511157559689888472012-11-06T05:35:07.088+00:002012-11-06T05:35:07.088+00:00@GG - Overpopulation is being discussed in complet...@GG - Overpopulation is being discussed in completely the wrong way. We think of it top-down, but it ought to be thought of bottom-up. <br /><br />Thinking top-down (number of people in the world, what that number should be etc) leads inevitably to evil plans to treat people as data.<br /><br />Also, so far, all these plans have backfired - and half a century of 'concern' about overpopulation has led to several billion more population.<br /><br />The harsh fact is that humans naturally reproduce well above replacement levels, and overpopulation is controlled by mortality - especially disease and starvation.<br /><br />Yet when humans are given the technology to limit reproduction, then (except for Mormons) they stop reproducing (more or less).<br /><br />Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-65064288468061982122012-11-06T03:35:19.884+00:002012-11-06T03:35:19.884+00:00I agree and think you raise a great point, but how...I agree and think you raise a great point, but how does overpopulation factor into this? At some point we can either chose to curtail or reverse growth as necessary or nature will do it for us. <br /><br />What if the responsible chose to slow while the feckless continue?George Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-83880392512266990502012-11-05T22:46:45.874+00:002012-11-05T22:46:45.874+00:00There is that old saying that 'fire purifies&#...There is that old saying that 'fire purifies'. Maybe western Christianity and western civilization are simply due for a purification. There may not be too many Christians, or Europeans, left at the end of it, but they will be genuine. People like Matthew Fox won't survive the great purge.<br />@Bruce the commenter: Congratulations, and keep up the good work.<br />@BGC: Are you familiar with John Lennox, Dr. Charlton? I was quite impressed by him during his debate with Hitchens. Anything by him that you could recommend?AlexTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-9209132801200204902012-11-05T17:46:37.254+00:002012-11-05T17:46:37.254+00:00@WmJas - Actually, what I am saying is that any se...@WmJas - Actually, what I am saying is that any self-styled-Christian 'people' (denomination) which in practice leads to *chosen* sterility, is not merely revealed to be truly not-Christian (this is one way we can know them not to be Christian) but is actually inferior to a fertile religion that is explicitly not Christian.<br /><br />NOTE: This stricture does not apply to specific individuals (real Christians can be found in many denominations and in no denomination), but to the denominations considered as 'a people'.Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-13589171934132816182012-11-05T17:26:05.843+00:002012-11-05T17:26:05.843+00:00@WmJas - It isn't anything specifically to do ...@WmJas - It isn't anything specifically to do with Christianity, as I think I said - it is natural law/ general revelation/ built-in common sense of natural Man. Something everyone is born knowing. It follows from knowing oneself to be part of 'a people'. Modernity/ Leftism has expended and continues to expend vast effort in uninstalling this. Why? Personal purposive evil at work. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-85868681772118815112012-11-05T17:02:21.937+00:002012-11-05T17:02:21.937+00:00Otto Weininger's view was that an interest in ...Otto Weininger's view was that an interest in perpetuating the species was indicative of a lack of eternal perspective or real belief in personal immortality. Keeping the race alive becomes all-important only when death is viewed as the end.<br /><br />Obviously this has limited applicability to the current situation in the West, where the problem is obviously <i>not</i> that people are too religious and otherworldly to be bothered to reproduce! But I still find it a thought-provoking point. Why exactly does it follow from the Christian premise that biological reproduction is important? (It's clear enough why it should be important to an atheist.)Wm Jashttp://wmjas.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-57502590526343936272012-11-05T15:24:42.552+00:002012-11-05T15:24:42.552+00:00The thing about Western civilization that I've...The thing about Western civilization that I've come to realize is that it isn't really ours to save. Of course, we should try to preserve the good things in it, but ultimately, if white Westerners don't really want there to be such a thing, in the future there may not be such a thing.Thursdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002311410445623799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-49411060550360655622012-11-05T15:21:39.335+00:002012-11-05T15:21:39.335+00:00Six children and counting. And plenty of fertile y...Six children and counting. And plenty of fertile years left for my wife and I. I’m doing my best.Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-21662506354757871282012-11-05T15:21:32.126+00:002012-11-05T15:21:32.126+00:00Religious conservatives have not been permanently ...Religious conservatives have not been permanently defeated, even in the West.<br /><br />White Western civilization on the other hand may indeed be on the road to permanent destruction.Thursdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002311410445623799noreply@blogger.com