tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post1059996614415764256..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: The two-fold difficulty about what we need to do...Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-8137524803186742622017-10-10T16:39:49.622+01:002017-10-10T16:39:49.622+01:00But on the face of it, those didn't address th...But on the face of it, those didn't address the question of whether we are following a wisdom higher than our own level of understanding or simply rejecting all wisdom entirely.<br /><br />Or is the point that we shouldn't even try to make that distinction, for ourselves or others?Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-3380761007395346712017-10-09T16:52:01.125+01:002017-10-09T16:52:01.125+01:00I explain it in the link/s given in the post. I explain it in the link/s given in the post. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-89144417664737401312017-10-09T15:32:07.553+01:002017-10-09T15:32:07.553+01:00I'm still having trouble understanding what yo...I'm still having trouble understanding what you mean by that.<br /><br />Does it mean to follow wisdom beyond our own understanding, or to really act contrary to the highest wisdom? Does it mean to confess that we are more foolish than we thought, or to seek to be even more foolish than we've been?Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-53447211235326755712017-10-08T18:28:27.570+01:002017-10-08T18:28:27.570+01:00"I suppose you must mean that we must admit t..."I suppose you must mean that we must admit to other people that we are fools, rather than only to ourselves"<br /><br />No - I mean we must be prepared to *be* fools. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-42497480845543242952017-10-08T13:23:42.891+01:002017-10-08T13:23:42.891+01:00I suppose you must mean that we must admit to othe...I suppose you must mean that we must admit to other people that we are fools, rather than only to ourselves (I have little experience with the mechanism of "admitting things to myself"). This is a possible interpretation of "make fools of ourselves", but for me that phrasing has always implied overtly foolish action.<br /><br />For me, acknowledging that a commandment to do something is rooted in wisdom beyond my own, and thus doing what would seem foolish purely in my own estimation, is not making a fool of myself, but admitting I'm a fool and showing obedience to greater wisdom. But if this is what you mean by the term, the clarification is sufficient.<br /><br />If you mean what I would normally interpret "making fools of ourselves" to mean, namely doing what our own judgment <i>and</i> scripture condemns as foolish, then I am at a loss as to how that should be what we need to do.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-21066376533187247082017-10-08T07:38:01.349+01:002017-10-08T07:38:01.349+01:00To admit when we are fools isn't enough - it i...To admit when we are fools isn't enough - it isn't anything-like enough! It is honest, but not courageous - and courage is necessary. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-76222164808890355192017-10-07T20:26:41.157+01:002017-10-07T20:26:41.157+01:00I think that it is less important to be willing to...I think that it is less important to be willing to make fools of ourselves than it is to <i>admit</i> when we are <i>already</i> fools.<br /><br />It is by admitting the limitations of our current knowledge and perspective that we are motivated to seek a higher vantage point and look for that which we did not previously know we needed to see.Chiu ChunLinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03519192610708043962noreply@blogger.com