tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post1844974026868128634..comments2024-03-29T15:13:42.610+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Don't blame the crows! It's Not About the birdemic!Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-32765224806904958662020-03-18T21:08:33.985+00:002020-03-18T21:08:33.985+00:00@M - The response has nothing to do with the birde...@M - The response has nothing to do with the birdemic. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-76516382025319235202020-03-18T19:54:41.589+00:002020-03-18T19:54:41.589+00:00Hello Bruce,
Huge fan of your blog. I have never...Hello Bruce, <br /><br />Huge fan of your blog. I have never seen so much fear in the mass media in my life and I am frightened that we are hugely overreacting and killing our economy. Question--as it doesn't affect youngish people below 60 as much, is a possible solution to the panic to encourage self-isolation amongst the elderly and let the younger people keep going to work, traveling, going to shops, etc to prevent a economic depression? I'm thinking they could have "elderly hours" at grocery stores, churches, maybe even restaurants to keep them away from asymptomatic younger folks. Then the younger people by fall would largely achieve herd immunity? Hopefully younger people would be extremely careful while visiting older relatives (social distancing, wear masks for the immunocompromised) I just want the panic to subside and this seems like a response more proportional to the threat. Meredithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-63387783517659215302020-03-18T17:02:33.580+00:002020-03-18T17:02:33.580+00:00@James. The first - yes; but not the last. @James. The first - yes; but not the last. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-50145523518638432052020-03-18T16:59:47.116+00:002020-03-18T16:59:47.116+00:00The first major issue is when loo roll and foodstu...The first major issue is when loo roll and foodstuffs run out - eggs for example. Bread. Then the game gets interesting.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-56313741248014651722020-03-18T13:35:09.707+00:002020-03-18T13:35:09.707+00:00Bruce,
Thanks.
I fear that They are preparing us...Bruce,<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />I fear that They are preparing us for something. I can hardly imagine all the crazy and evil policies and subversions this sham pandemic will be used to push.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-17385495478141995032020-03-18T07:59:05.368+00:002020-03-18T07:59:05.368+00:00@Greg - Correct at time of writing (according to T...@Greg - Correct at time of writing (according to The Lancet). But don't be distracted, you need to look behind the data (which may, of course, be false - and more likely false the longer the crisis continues). <br /><br />The principle is that Deaths are among the elderly (the older the greater the mortality), the already-significantly ill; and is higher among East Asians. And some people die *with* corvid diease, not necessarily *from* it. Exceptions are Always expected in medicine: we were trained: Never Say Never. <br /><br />There may be other odd cases, for reasons known (and withheld) or not known - for example I once knew a young, healthy English man in his twenties who got tuberculosis. It is incredibly rare - nearly all cases were in people from South Asia, or old people, or immunocompromised - but it happened. And more than 200 people in England die from TB each year, two every three days, unremarked.<br /><br />When every case is reported, in a censored form, we get a very distorted picture of reality. <br /><br />But It's Not About The Birdemic. If 300,000 olf and ill people die of it this season, there is still no reason for totalitarian takeover. The takeover is because They want it; not because of the disease. And the Godless media-addicted masses have not even noticed. <br /><br />This is how peoples are justly 'punished' - Not by God, but by their own foolish behaviour and stupid, stubborn choices that follow consequentially after God and his goodness and creation have been rejected; and they have embraced fearful, hedonic, selfish, nihilistic insanity. <br /><br />Meanwhile the demonic powers are rejoicing; one can imagine Their gleeful cackling at what has already been achieved so quickly and easily, and in anticipation at what They intend to do with their new totalitarian powers. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-61886864946917047632020-03-18T07:32:13.613+00:002020-03-18T07:32:13.613+00:00Bruce,
Are you sure no one under 50 in Europe has...Bruce,<br /><br />Are you sure no one under 50 in Europe has died from the virus? I've seen reports about young Italians dying from it here and there.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-64982884954398309872020-03-17T00:17:19.808+00:002020-03-17T00:17:19.808+00:00@Ingemar -
That is a very interesting insight on ...@Ingemar -<br /><br />That is a very interesting insight on your part. I had been wondering what God intended for the Society for a while. I have been supporting them from afar for a number of years and see them as the only reliable *institutional* source within the Church (there are exceptions among individual Priests). <br /><br />It makes sense that this may be what they were prepared for. I hope not, for them, martyrdom - but perhaps a turn to a secret or underground Church to preserve the faith.<br /><br />@BruceCharlton -<br /><br />I am a naturally paranoid and cautious man, and if the state hadn't imposed quarantine it was my intention to do it myself for my family (until it became clearer what is really happening). Normally I assume people are oblivious to threats because of normalcy bias.<br /><br />At this point it does seem clear. The data out of Italy says the average age of death is 80, and all except for a couple cases had underlying health conditions - the majority had multiple. So this has the normalcy bias flipped. Everyone, including myself, oblivious to the real threat. It seems a trap we have easily stepped into.<br /><br />I think more people will realize the truth though if/when things do not appear to resume some degree of normalcy. Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck and the financial hardships and clamoring for more government solutions will come to fruition very soon.<br />Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-76459705334839621012020-03-16T17:31:40.823+00:002020-03-16T17:31:40.823+00:00@Jake,
Smaller groups within the Catholic Church ...@Jake,<br /><br />Smaller groups within the Catholic Church are acting with greater faith than the Church at large are doing their best to keep the Mass available and if not, to have it said at least in private. I'm of course referring to the Society of St. Pius X, where I was able to attend Mass yesterday. Now I still have my doubts about the society, but I didn't doubt for a second that they would try their hardest to keep Mass available--this is, after all, a society that has withstood 50 years of soft persecution by their own popes. Ingemarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695600705603036692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-72525592883538349172020-03-16T16:43:52.226+00:002020-03-16T16:43:52.226+00:00I have literally only two or so acquaintances that...I have literally only two or so acquaintances that I know in real life who understand the nature of what is going on. It's amazing.<br /><br />I recently joined the Catholic Church, and have already reached the conclusion that is is basically useless as a religious institution. The priest who was with me through a crisis last year, and who is exceedingly devout and traditionalist, is a single individual. His very real and wonderful attributes do not magically transfer to the Church as an institution through some sort of commutative property. He will be disappointed to learn that I do not share his "faith" in the eternal nature of the institutional church, but so be it. I plan to be honest with him in a long letter.<br /><br />The only churches locally that seem OK are the "free," small, independent churches. Their liturgies, such as they are, may lack the finesse of say the Orthodox Church or a traditional Latin mass Catholic church, but you know what? I can listen to those liturgies online. The important thing is to find some sort of in-the-flesh Christian fellowship.<br /><br />God bless you for your blog. It's truly a blessing to your readers.Jacob Gitteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10559764359800682222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-21874866382609529242020-03-16T16:37:04.691+00:002020-03-16T16:37:04.691+00:00@d Judge for yourself. The pattern of mortality nu...@d Judge for yourself. The pattern of mortality numbers and rates by age are available for China, Korea and Italy.Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-57596756862991007802020-03-16T16:31:57.706+00:002020-03-16T16:31:57.706+00:00"Severe effect is mainly seen among East Asia..."Severe effect is mainly seen among East Asian ethnicity": is there good evidence for this?<br /><br />Or are we back to the popular inference that whenever The Authorities don't mention race they are covering up an embarrassment?<br />(I suspect that the pop are usually right about that.)deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-43686113728303766662020-03-16T15:27:50.944+00:002020-03-16T15:27:50.944+00:00@I - Yes. Except in this case, totalitarian takeov...@I - Yes. Except in this case, totalitarian takeover has happened all around the developed world pretty simultaneously. In both cases the mass mob (as well as the Establishment flunkeys) overwhelmingly support their own de facto enslavement. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-80713443346289467532020-03-16T14:59:55.884+00:002020-03-16T14:59:55.884+00:00The birdemic is the Mother of All Reichstag Fires....The birdemic is the Mother of All Reichstag Fires.Ingemarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695600705603036692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-66828037198255149622020-03-16T14:23:54.405+00:002020-03-16T14:23:54.405+00:00Gave you seen the new regulations - powers to deta...Gave you seen the new regulations - powers to detain individuals?<br /><br />It contains all the hallmarks of a totalitarian state, which would usually be contested vociferously by all sorts of people. Will they oppose it now, or comply with the law? Has the demon FEAR gagged protest?<br /><br />Your analysis would be appreciated.<br /><br /><br />Barry<br /><br />@B - This seems to be an further increase on powers that were first grabbed just a few days ago - and I doubt it will be the last.<br /><br />Maybe fear is too inadequate a word for the birdemic - this reaction is fuelled by *terror*; this is a kind of state-sponsored terror campaign. I have a few instances in my circle of direct knowledge of genuine (and unprecedented) terror among individuals who are (in reality) at essentially zero risk. I guess this is widespread. <br /><br />It is now too late for 'protest' - the thing has happened. The question is how we proceed from here. And before anything else must come a recognition of the actual state of affairs; but I suspect even that cannot happen without some kind of Christian revival - since mainstream atheists have amply-proven themselves structurally incapable of perceiving the obvious (such as the difference between a man and a woman). <br />Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.com