tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2003433695469900385..comments2024-03-29T12:03:37.344+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Jesus as a 'sacrifice' for the 'propitiation' of our sins and the apparent incompatibility with 'God is love'Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-54102452104224094522015-05-11T04:02:05.607+01:002015-05-11T04:02:05.607+01:00The point of a sacrifice is not payment for a tran...The point of a sacrifice is not payment for a transgression, but the humble admission of wrongdoing. This admission must have a real cost to be sincere. If we can just pay when we do something wrong we can do as much wrong as we can afford, This was talked about in Isaiah. <br /><br />God is love, but love demands justice. Justice is an aspect of God, since it is an aspect of love. Love and justice are not different things. Love and hate are not different things; to love something requires hating the thing opposed to and harmful to it. <br /><br />Someone you don't care about cannot pay for your transgressions, since the suffering you caused them doesn't mean anything to you. If you love someone the pain they suffer paying for your transgressions is painful to you, so the payment is meaningful. Most meaningful of course is the sacrifice of one family member for another. <br /><br />To go further you can say a person cannot and will not pay for the transgressions of someone he does not love, which gives you Calvinism roughly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-8357983209391938942015-05-10T07:21:16.298+01:002015-05-10T07:21:16.298+01:00One of the most resonating critiques to modern Chr...One of the most resonating critiques to modern Christianity made by the secular reaction is what I call the "self-annihilation for salvation" "Christian." Since all religions outside of Christianity ULTIMATELY elevate self-annihilation as highest act/state of "being." It is the effort of anti-Christians to edit the Christian narrative so that it also includes self-annihilation as its highest act and/or state of "being." As you say, there is no sacrificial mamdate for believers in Christ and I believe the Crucifixion was to solve for "us" the problem of evil and bask in the glory of he who endured the most perfect pain so that no man shall ever suffer any evil more gratuitous.Thordaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887901925655428541noreply@blogger.com