tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2108572275905210838..comments2024-03-29T12:03:37.344+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Christian women used to be more religious than men - now they are lessBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-78900806587748695622021-08-07T18:04:16.254+01:002021-08-07T18:04:16.254+01:00I think part of the situation undermining women is...I think part of the situation undermining women is their desire to be needed on one hand and the fashion of emotional independence on the other.<br /><br />My perception is that men are both more naturally emotionally independent and don't worry as much about whether they are emotionally independent, following the fashion. <br /><br />Modern women regard it as an embarrassment when they are called needy, as do men, but responsible men consider it a compliment to be needed by loved ones, whereas women feel embarrassed when they are shown to be needed by their loved ones. This may be a natural aspect of their particular biological role as mothers, with an ultimate goal of the child becoming independent. Still, I believe modern mothers are stuck between the good aspects of their natural emotional dependence, needing and being needed, and some very unhelpful psych fashions. And it is very crazy-making.<br /><br />So for instance, co-dependency really is a problem that is not symmetrical wrt the sexes. The natural dependency of women as mothers and potential mothers should be a central consideration. Instead, women rack their brains for how they can stop being the dreaded codependent, and mostly 'solve' it by turning away from good dependency, away from being a force for good morality. Lucindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834799557675879450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-56710048975214985522021-08-04T18:14:44.331+01:002021-08-04T18:14:44.331+01:00This is a topic I have spent a lot of time thinkin...This is a topic I have spent a lot of time thinking about, especially since the powers that shouldn't be are determined to mix up traditional gender roles. One reason for that, I believe, is to weaken the influence of masculinity, which would be inclined to fight against what is happening now.<br /><br />The dynamic might be different in the US, but I think Christian women are still more common here than (genuinely) Christian men. Most men have either taken on a feminized "soy boy" persona or have gone to the other extreme of toxic masculinity, acting like thugs. Responsible, spiritual men are exceedingly rare.<br /><br />As a result, women have had little choice but to step up and fill the void...so a virtuous woman now has to develop qualities that once distinguished virtuous men (such as leadership, independence, and outspokenness), even if these aren't natural to her. Because as you mention...going along to get along means siding with evil at this point.Truth to Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04370172701251387988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-80812484324462399712021-08-04T14:21:29.414+01:002021-08-04T14:21:29.414+01:00Men see religion as a way to get to truth, but for...Men see religion as a way to get to truth, but for women, it's about relationships.<br /><br />This basic interest in Christianity as a social aid has been co-opted by leftism: formerly nurturing, now neurotic SJW, formerly home-making, now office-politicking, formerly tradition-upholding, now sexual revolution-upholding.<br /><br />The Sexual Revolution is the biggest reproductive scam on women ever, yet most women smugly believe they are reproductively smarter/braver than any before, it's built into the scam.<br /><br />That pride is probably where the big difference is. Modern women have been 'freed' from the humble practical habits previously necessary for thriving as "the weaker sex". Now they honestly believe womankind is self-sufficient (a delusion) and that this is optimal (because the masculine virtue of defiant truth-seeking is felt as a threat to the self-sufficiency delusion. Men as men are not welcome.)Lucindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01834799557675879450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-40212084017035397012021-08-04T12:23:06.194+01:002021-08-04T12:23:06.194+01:00@LC - True - but irrelevant!
"as usually, y...@LC - True - but irrelevant! <br /><br />"as usually, you tend to down-play free will." - ! The opposite would be a more valid criticism; but either way, personality and free will are orthogonal. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-23898006494237053462021-08-04T11:42:24.866+01:002021-08-04T11:42:24.866+01:00Dear Dr.Charlton,
as usually, you tend to down-pla...Dear Dr.Charlton,<br />as usually, you tend to down-play free will.<br /><br />Women have free will, as have men; so while they certainly are more conformance-oriented, they still can choose which group to conform to, if any.<br /><br />Therefore, if women are today mostly on the side of evil, it is because they WANT to be on the side of evil. You cannot blame it on 'public discourse'; that would imply that God somehow restricts the free will of these women so the 'cannot' choose Good.<br /><br />But they can; therefore, they alone are to blame for them being on the side of evil. It is their own free will; therefore, it is also their own sin, not that of society or somebody else.<br /><br />Lao'CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com