tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2208689551827991122..comments2024-03-28T16:35:26.665+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Leftism as a transitional state - to what?Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-20414464521353303092012-09-21T04:20:23.908+01:002012-09-21T04:20:23.908+01:00"Of course, it would be ridiculous to imagine..."Of course, it would be ridiculous to imagine that any such plan was human in origin."<br /><br />And yet, given the liberal paradigm, "Liberalism" does originate with man. But even further, its human origin is spiritually and intellectually void per liberal beliefs. So "Liberalism," according to liberals, must have human "biological" origins. "Liberalism" in its human "biological" origin is the transgression of the homosexual "nature," i.e., the self-annihilating "nature." <br /><br />"Liberalism," like Islam, must relentlessly expand because it is self-annihilating. This self-annihilation can be seen as the flip side to Mark Richardson's "autonomy theory" and the idea that the liberal is one who can self-create. Liberal self-creation necessitates liberal self-annihilation. This perpetual change is evidence of one's absolute autonomy. Of course, it is much more difficult to be something in particular (like a genuine Christian) as opposed to being nothing in particular (a radical autonomist)and so most liberals are constantly in the act of destroying their last created self. Sometimes, permanently.Thordaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887901925655428541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-32346517063557881522012-09-21T04:13:44.338+01:002012-09-21T04:13:44.338+01:00Philip Rieff devastatingly documents the work of t...Philip Rieff devastatingly documents the work of these 'therapeutics' <br /><br />" "The systematic hunting down of all settled convictions represents the anti-cultural predicate upon which modern personality is being reorganized. . . . Our cultural revolution does not aim, like its predecessors, at victory for some rival commitment, but rather at a way of using all commitments, which amounts to loyalty toward none."<br /><br />He recognised nothing was proposed to replace sacred order and the culture built up around it. Therapeutics propose . . . the nothing. <br /><br />Christopher Dawson and George Orwell came to slightly different conclusions about what was being built - Dawson thought the nihilism at the centre of an omnicompetent technocratic state was unstable and would collapse into itself, Orwell thought it possible. Tolkien knew 'The Triumph of the Therapeutic' means domination of the atomised 'i' by the great 'I'. <br /><br />We see it 'drawing all evil to itself' as we speak in plain sight - the demons are nothing if not vain. <br /><br />-MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-19794196728428080522012-09-21T03:10:13.369+01:002012-09-21T03:10:13.369+01:00I suppose leftism is a transitional state from a c...I suppose leftism is a transitional state from a civilization based on a good-versus-evil religion which treats all souls as equally redeemable, to a post-civilization based on a hodge-podge of religions overlain on a caste system. <br /><br />It is as if a caste of Brahmins decided to create a caste of Pariahs, all in order to make the Parsis sad. I'm not trying to be funny here, and I know I'm not treating Indian groups very accurately, but that really is the analogy that leaps out at me. B322https://www.blogger.com/profile/18257802768718375656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-90652586504482973282012-09-20T21:30:00.052+01:002012-09-20T21:30:00.052+01:00@JP "Most Leftists are pretty open about thei...@JP "Most Leftists are pretty open about their hate."<br /><br />But they don't describe it as hate. <br /><br />In my experience they're not actually open about their hate, but they are openly hateful. <br /><br />Bruce is correct: most leftists' self-knowledge is either non-existent or extremely shallow.<br /><br />They've made a virtue of rationalizing excuses. They prefer to watch they say and not what they do, because it's what allows them to maintain the illusion that they're the "good guys." CorkyAgainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16118775131210676777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-3313300306302511342012-09-20T17:45:17.562+01:002012-09-20T17:45:17.562+01:00I would think it logical that people who actually ...I would think it logical that people who actually aim for power and material pleasure here on Earth would prefer there to be a large number of Christians who emphasize non-wordly things. There would be more power and material pleasure for those who want them, as Christians usually are productive citizens. This would be close to the "neoconservative" position that sees the importance of "Christian values" for the success of the American empire. <br /><br />I believe the Chinese communist party has decided to tolerate Christians because they usually make little trouble and are productive.<br /><br />This is just to say that Leftist anti-Christianity is not very logical, unless the point of Leftism is to destroy Christianity.Matias F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12018666354109074544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-90377620736584748372012-09-20T16:54:16.417+01:002012-09-20T16:54:16.417+01:00@JP "It is logical enough for Leftists, who a...@JP "It is logical enough for Leftists, who aim for power and material pleasure here on Earth, to attack Christianity, which emphasizes non-worldly things."<br /><br />Yes, *that* is logical; but it is not logic but because Leftism is a psychotic instrument of evil that it paves the way for a regime which would irreversibly exclude them from power and material pleasure. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-33768587628698838232012-09-20T16:19:17.771+01:002012-09-20T16:19:17.771+01:00"The strength of Leftism's anti-Christian..."The strength of Leftism's anti-Christianity is that it is consistently and coherently anti-Christian without even being consciously aware of the fact."<br /><br />Most Leftists are pretty open about their hate.<br /><br />"it would be ridiculous to imagine that any such plan was human in origin"<br /><br />It is logical enough for Leftists, who aim for power and material pleasure here on Earth, to attack Christianity, which emphasizes non-worldly things.JPnoreply@blogger.com