tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post2633607350427935883..comments2024-03-29T12:03:37.344+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: "Building alternative institutions" - it's already been tried, and has failedBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-51191483675527380732022-02-08T07:04:30.513+00:002022-02-08T07:04:30.513+00:00@easty - You are assuming that politics and race a...@easty - You are assuming that politics and race are stronger motivators than religion - which I regard as obviously untrue. They are negative, and strong enough motivators to destroy - and to aid the work of destruction at work in this world; but not strong enough to create - which requires positive, religious, motivations. <br /><br />@Alan - I am not being absolute - just pointing out that this strategy is not new, nor are its prospects good. <br /><br />"When people are cornered they generally fight. Regardless of the odds." - Well, that used to be the case. But now? Obviously not!<br /><br />Maybe people will eventually fight rather than walking obediently or despairingly to the lethal chambers - I hope they do. But the desperate fighting-for-survival (for a few more minutes) of a cornered fox against a pack of hounds (the existence of which the fox has, until that moment, ignored, or supported and defended!) is not the basis for a better world. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-36281326062507226782022-02-08T05:07:32.742+00:002022-02-08T05:07:32.742+00:00I am always wary of fully accepting absolute state...I am always wary of fully accepting absolute statements concerning vast phenomena, statements such as "they are have all failed."<br /><br />Even if it is 99.9% true, that still leaves a lot of particulars not covered under the statement.<br /><br />I would just add this: The demonic nature of the Other Side is pushing itself right into people's faces. Never before has Human Civilization been entirely possessed by such evil, nor has this evil been so all-pervasive and confident enough to think it can shove everyone's face in the mud and get away with it.<br /><br />When people are cornered they generally fight. Regardless of the odds.Alan Roebuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02125110158671849339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-77448952634967542022022-02-08T02:42:16.784+00:002022-02-08T02:42:16.784+00:00I find it odd and somewhat humorous that I get to ...I find it odd and somewhat humorous that I get to play the role of Pollyanna to your Puddleglumery when I myself am a marsh-wiggle at my core.<br /><br />You're too quick to dismiss Christendom with the Great Apostasy 2.0: watered down and embarrassing version. The Covidian people were foolish, but people do learn (not enough people and not enough learning, ever, but it happens).<br /><br />You're right that various Christians attempted to create parallel societies -- and all of that has been infiltrated and co-opted. I sadly agree. However, I believe that such was allowed to happen (by those Christians themselves) because they hadn't adequately faced up to the fact that our societies -- our political, cultural, educational, and martial institutions -- have been taken over by anti-Christian powers. They're like mainstream American Republicans who still think that we're the good guys -- sweet land of liberty, blessed by the Lord (and in the U.S., they are the very same people). Among such folks are millions of Roman Catholics who still think that we should compromise with the world in order to evangelize it -- refusing to see the disaster of the Post-Vatican II landscape, blind to every obvious indicator. Yes, you're right -- this betrays a shocking amount of naivety and spiritual dullness. But I think that you fail to see the cracks in the mind-prison appearing. Yes, as you frequently note, it has never been easier (well, not in 17 centuries, at least) to see the path of the light and the path of darkness so clearly demarcated. And such is leading and will continue to lead to a spiritual awakening of previous sleepers, who thought (perhaps in willful ignorance) that they could serve two masters. But the brazenness of the demons is waking people. "Normies" are starting to realize what the perceptive decades ago.<br /><br />I repeat this disagreement to say that the future survivors -- who will muster through this dark age and then finally rebuild Christendom on the ashes of fallen civilization, if the world endures -- will have additional evidence that Western Christians in the mid-20th century did not. Like the Hebrews of old, knowledge of the truth will be held by the whole people and not simply the far-seeing wise. In place of a small collection of Kirks, Burnhams, and Scrutons, every man and maid will recognize the serpent's latest disguises. Of course, the demons will find other temptations to lead people astray, but their current six century scrimmage will have played out.Joseph A.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-20579112800974341212022-02-08T01:43:23.373+00:002022-02-08T01:43:23.373+00:00The parallel institutions have to be racial and po...The parallel institutions have to be racial and political not religious. Religious institutions are just like "You're not Trinitarian enough so you're cancelled" or "You're not Calvinist enough so you're cancelled."eastynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-19378003932433228832022-02-07T19:54:17.461+00:002022-02-07T19:54:17.461+00:00Who could disagree with this post? Nobody who has ...Who could disagree with this post? Nobody who has a pair of eyes.<br /><br />I wish I was 80 and my life behind me. I have some decades left and I don't want to live in this kind of worldxxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03301056246301447928noreply@blogger.com