tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post3133978140323304104..comments2024-03-28T13:47:00.644+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Archbishop Vigano - correct diagnosis, flawed prescriptionBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-87565723535775861722021-12-21T13:37:04.307+00:002021-12-21T13:37:04.307+00:00@W These are good things, but are long term strate...@W These are good things, but are long term strategies and not possible for all Men. The great need is for what any one can do, starting immediately.Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-24343982793825733392021-12-21T13:02:28.969+00:002021-12-21T13:02:28.969+00:00Good Augustinian point. Evil is just anti-good/tru...Good Augustinian point. Evil is just anti-good/true/beautiful. So being anti-anti evil isn't an inspiring path to victory. Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good. Build a local Christian community. Build philia and storge from the foundation of agape in a world obsessed with eros. Homeschool or have kids Christian school educated, else nothing you do will matter anyway.Wiseaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18171928796924415914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-685184197785623582021-12-20T15:26:15.271+00:002021-12-20T15:26:15.271+00:00Interesting how it is exactly parallel to the secu...Interesting how it is exactly parallel to the secular political world. If you wait until the GOP, Tories, or whatever party are "reformed" nothing will happen because they are completely embedded into and aligned with the very system you are trying to oppose.c mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-79223766572747514092021-12-20T15:15:50.549+00:002021-12-20T15:15:50.549+00:00Well said and I completely agree.
In my own head...Well said and I completely agree. <br /><br />In my own head I think of it as heliotropism or eutrophism. <br /><br />As the sunflower follows the sun, I as a Christian need to follow Christ and not keep my face turned to the current spectacle. <br /><br />Christ provides.<br /><br />Merry Christmas!Skarphedinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-88394979328227153652021-12-20T10:23:50.301+00:002021-12-20T10:23:50.301+00:00Zeno has left a comment:
I think something very s...Zeno has left a comment:<br /><br />I think something very strange has happened and is happening.<br /><br />Many people, including me, felt instinctively, almost from the start, that there was something wrong about the way this birdemic was being "fought". The novel methods of lockdowns, social distancing, and all the paraphernalia of control, which have now taken us to the extreme of mandating a useless or perhaps even harmful peck every few months, and the diabolical and equally useless and harmful "peck passports" to go anywhere. It all just feels very, very wrong.<br /><br />This instinctive feeling that something was wrong or off was felt, I think, in particular by Christians. Most secular "conservatives" were on the side of "Science!" and the pecks, at least until the farce became too obvious.<br /><br />But, while many or even most Christians could feel that something was wrong, the hierarchy and bureaucracy of the Church, of all Churches, both Protestant and Catholic, from the start was on the side of the "great reset" and the pecks. Even now, most churches in many countries are requiring "peck passports" to enter.<br /><br />Now, even from before the birdemic, you could see that the Church as an institution was diverging from churchgoing Christians (with many churches supporting "gay marriage", etc), but now the separation is almost complete. The Church, at least the official church, appears to be in complete opposition to Christians, and totally secularized. Following "Science!" and whatever tyrannical rule government decides, it's fine by them.<br /><br />I do not know how to interpret that. But no wonder many people, even many Christians, feel lost.<br /><br />Let us hope for the best. Merry Christmas!Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-16533361675480602352021-12-20T09:01:04.905+00:002021-12-20T09:01:04.905+00:00@Frank - Yes, well said.
The Roman church could ...@Frank - Yes, well said. <br /><br />The Roman church could certainly be a significant part of the answer - if those Catholics who were in range of specific local uncorrupt priests and parishes would straightway join, immediately (without negotiation) detach spiritually from the System Church, and become active as ready-groups- in addition to each person's immediate and personal activity. <br /><br />That would be great.<br /><br />But there is no time to wait for hypothetical long-term institutional solutions; and if we insist on them as a priority, then all Good and Positive energy and motivation will rapidly dissipate and/or be diverted. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-69158272842445974912021-12-20T08:52:33.331+00:002021-12-20T08:52:33.331+00:00I had similar thoughts when I first encountered V&...I had similar thoughts when I first encountered V's call for a global alliance. You are right, V is spot on when it comes to diagnosis, but his prescription - though, presumably, well-motivated - offers no viable solution to our current challenges for the same reasons calls to get involved in politics or use the System to "hack" the System offer no viable solution (and if they did, the solution would not be Good). <br /><br />Though I admire V's perspicacity, his call misses the essence of what is required in this time and place. I chalk up his 'systemized' prescription to his being embedded within the system of a rigorously systemized church structure. Any and all challenges to the System must originate at the level of the individual and must originate outwith the System. And, as you note, the challenge to the System cannot be purely an 'against' movement. On the contrary, the challenge must stem from a positive 'for.' If this occurs, it will set the stage for Divine Providence to amplify and organize individual activities, as you suggest. <br /><br /><br />V's prescription is largely reactive. These times call for Christians to be creative.Francis Bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063224017320651978noreply@blogger.com