tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post4277050458359153125..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Memories of pre-mortal lifeBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-24985970427588068822015-03-08T21:01:29.349+00:002015-03-08T21:01:29.349+00:00Specifically that, when looked at from a Heavenly ...<i>Specifically that, when looked at from a Heavenly perspective, mortal life is extremely slowed-up, as if we lived in a more viscous medium than Heaven.</i><br /><br />Reminiscent of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wink_of_an_Eye" rel="nofollow">this episode</a> of the original <i>Star Trek</i>.Tuckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-36493433783709284542015-03-08T18:42:08.450+00:002015-03-08T18:42:08.450+00:00@Wm - A good example. But more nights than not, I ...@Wm - A good example. But more nights than not, I wake up after an hour (by the bedside clock) having subjectively experienced a long, complex, detailed, often rather exhausting dream that has subjectively seemed to occupy a very long time - sometimes a day or more. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-48583140425232744372015-03-08T17:17:02.536+00:002015-03-08T17:17:02.536+00:00In one case reported by Milton Erickson (which I r...In one case reported by Milton Erickson (which I read about less than an hour before reading and commenting on this post), a young man experienced <i>20 years</i> of subjective time (he reported reliving his own past life, moment by moment and apparently in "real time," from the age of 6 to 26) during a two-hour hypnosis session.Wm Jas Tychonievichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446790072877463982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-13239952683872378042015-03-08T15:58:05.116+00:002015-03-08T15:58:05.116+00:00Wm - Yes indeed. I would say that is *exactly* why...Wm - Yes indeed. I would say that is *exactly* why dreams/ daydreams/ trances/ delirium etc are states associated with mystical insights and revelations. The problem is that long term memory is usually impaired in altered states of consciousness. <br /><br />Perhaps when God communicates with people via dreams (as for example, Joseph the husband of Mary) what is unusual about this is more a matter of preserving the memory of this encounter, than of there being a communication. <br /><br />I suspect that such communications are frequent/ routine among those people who are open to them (who consent to them) - but the effect of such communications is almost entirely unconscious, unremembered - implicit. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-28218535004332391242015-03-08T15:46:38.852+00:002015-03-08T15:46:38.852+00:00Hypnosis and fever states can speed up subjective ...Hypnosis and fever states can speed up subjective time considerably (I was just reading about this research <i>today</i>, by coincidence!), so according to your hypothesis they may help people break through "the veil."Wm Jas Tychonievichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446790072877463982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-33766879615997246342015-03-08T15:42:25.158+00:002015-03-08T15:42:25.158+00:00@N - Thank you!
You are quite right that it is wr...@N - Thank you!<br /><br />You are quite right that it is wrong to suppose these things are *just* a metaphor. When there is truth in them, they are true - but almost never completely true - the truth is always partial and distorted to some degree. So - a true metaphor, perhaps... Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-3830063373959922792015-03-08T09:28:54.840+00:002015-03-08T09:28:54.840+00:00"Those who believe in a pre-mortal, un-incarn..."Those who believe in a pre-mortal, un-incarnated, spirit existence need to have an answer to the question of why so many people apparently cannot remember anything about it".<br /><br />Your explanation seems pretty good to me - only I wouldn't call it a "metaphor" Maybe some wisdoms are literally applicable. Science cannot answer how. They do not have a mechanism to explain spiritual experience. So the many millions of experiences that humans have, are put into a category Spernatural. Wheras, the breakthrough might come, if we consider that Spernatural is actually Natural. We are multidimensional creatures - all creatures are - and we evolve through stages unseen and seen. Heaven is just a word for an unseen place, interpreted by different religions in different ways, and scorned by athiests. <br /><br />Yet anecdotal evidence is there - masses of it - to suggest there is something "more". Scientific scrutiny, being excessively viscuos (as you put it) tries to measure something extremely swift (as you put it). We can measure the wind with anemometers. We can't see the wind. We can only feel it. We cannot easily test supernatural (I call it multidimensionality) because scientific tools are limited. Humans, because of their ability to communicate their experiences, are anemometers indicating the existence of many dimensions because the veil is so often breached. How common that is - and it really is common -, indicates the concept that Supernatural is really Natural, and Heaven (as you call it) exists not in metaphor but in actuality.<br /><br />Thank you for so many posts of yours that provoke thought in me. Your mind disseminates itself in many (metaphorical) dimensions on the internet and in your work. Yet, they are not metaphor, They are real. To me, they are actual breezes of the divine mind in your spiritual anenometer<br /><br />Namaste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com