tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post7071021165965941667..comments2024-03-28T17:44:11.289+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: One can't (now) be agnostic about Christianity - what what about other stuff? Classic conspiracy theories? Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-63745499155842997002021-07-20T19:07:01.585+01:002021-07-20T19:07:01.585+01:00Great post Bruce.
Key insights.Great post Bruce.<br />Key insights.Nathanaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-69552085892954226702021-07-20T08:26:51.028+01:002021-07-20T08:26:51.028+01:00@Pilgrim - if you word search this blog, you will ...@Pilgrim - if you word search this blog, you will find many references to Seraphim Rose - and I have a copy of his book on UFOs. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-88921382243088188532021-07-20T07:46:00.435+01:002021-07-20T07:46:00.435+01:00Very well putVery well putBrief Outlineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18153534581115253885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-89271619184235250572021-07-20T07:30:27.088+01:002021-07-20T07:30:27.088+01:00Seraphim Rose, an Orthodox Clergy (I think he was ...Seraphim Rose, an Orthodox Clergy (I think he was a Brother) who died a while back, did a compelling analysis of UFO abductions in his book “Orthodoxy”and came to the conclusion that they were actually demonic possessions. It is too rich to outline in this post, but it seemed apropos of the discussion of agnosticism in relation to conspiracy theories. I think I share your agnosticism in relation to conspiracy theories, because they seem to be a distraction away from where my attention is best focused – understanding my role as a beloved child of God. UFOs maybe demons, but my finding an answer to that question can never be certified and it robs me of energy I can spend knowing and growing in the wisdom of the Divine. They are like the eyes that lure in the forest of Mirkwood. Your posts are always expansive and insightful - thanks Bruce for your dedication to this blog! Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661321941648667126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-81447143752163350672021-07-19T22:32:38.039+01:002021-07-19T22:32:38.039+01:00I think this correct: "whatever 'it' ...I think this correct: "whatever 'it' is ... is subsumed within the much larger matter of destiny, or providence; that is, God's plans for me and for the world and its people."<br /><br />What might be helpful for a Christian in these troubled times is to understand that the System literally runs on lies. Thus, it makes sense that the "prince of this world" is also the "father of lies." If you hate lies, you will have trouble in this world and vice-versa.<br /><br />Finally, of all the alternative theorists, I have only found the following three people worth reading:<br /><br />(1) Original research covering the "'four-establishment model' and the Box Model of Politics, which explain how establishments operate and how conspiracies can happen and who are the key persons ("Superclass index") involved in them." https://isgp-studies.com/<br /><br />(2) Miles Mathis' original takes on politics and science. http://www.mileswmathis.com/<br /><br />(3) VigilantCitzen for understanding esoteric symbolism. https://vigilantcitizen.com/ <br />MagnusStouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16975404335377881030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-10359386139420704972021-07-19T16:36:10.890+01:002021-07-19T16:36:10.890+01:00@Williams - Yes, that's it.
It is tempting t...@Williams - Yes, that's it. <br /><br />It is tempting to wish for the supernatural to be true because our lives are so mundane and shallow; and then to grasp at the merely supernatural. <br /><br />We would both agree that the supernatural *is* real and true (or, some of it), but that recognition is only a Good Thing when the recognition comes from a change of view that recognizes God and creation. If it is merely supernaturalism, then the result has all the faults (and inadequacies) of materialism. <br /><br />e.g. Some modern people are able (and keen) to 'believe in ghosts', but without believing in an afterlife; or considering what are the *implications* of ghosts being real. <br /><br />But the proper attitude would be more like JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis: to believe that there really are ghosts - but these 'phenomena' are significant only in a context that explains them in a context of God, creation and Christian purposes regarding life after death. <br /><br />You would think that belief in ghosts (or magic, or divination etc) would lead people onwards to a greater recognition of the spiritual, then the divine, in life; but somehow (presumably because materialism has such a grip on our thinking) that does not usually seem to happen. Instead you just get atheistic groups of 'ghost hunter' hobbyists with electromagnetic and infrared 'detectors'. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-87170563020971264802021-07-19T15:12:39.870+01:002021-07-19T15:12:39.870+01:00I have watched some of the Ancient Aliens programm...I have watched some of the Ancient Aliens programmes about crop circles and whether extra terrestrials visited us in the past and such like and they are very interesting but, like you, I don't see them as important in a spiritual sense. They are still part of this world, just a supernatural part. But they are not of any real spiritual significance and this is a bit of a trap for the enthusiasts who channel their religious impulses into what is fundamentally a non-religious direction.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.com