tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post7988031625317704643..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: When is a Church not a Church? Leftism and the hollowing-out of institutionsBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-69120541943177690812013-07-12T22:00:34.488+01:002013-07-12T22:00:34.488+01:00@b - Well, I agree with you - but there is a meme ...@b - Well, I agree with you - but there is a meme going the rounds that the secular Right blogosphere is a way station to Christianity. <br /><br />Well it could be. Nazism was arguably a way station for Heidegger en route to (a sort of) Christianity - but where does that get us? Still bad things!<br /><br />Leftism can also be a way station to Christianity as well - especially if Leftism is followed right through in its implications (ie self refuting) - an ultra Leftist like Chomsky (and I would have called myself a disciple of his circa 1990) must find it hard not to move onto something else, because the whole thing becomes utterly absurd and arbitrary.<br /><br />It seems on the one hand trivially obvious that different people come to Christ in different ways - via murder, alcoholism, terminal illness - but that doesn't make those desirable states. <br /><br />But it seems obvious to me that people often/usually get stuck in the 'phase' of secular Right explicit evil for many decades, and are still in that phase when they die - at least that's what I see, looking around.Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-57353373830180496742013-07-12T21:04:59.108+01:002013-07-12T21:04:59.108+01:00What "Goodness of Secular Right"? - the ...What "Goodness of Secular Right"? - the whole point (the unique selling proposition) of Secular Right is to be openly evil. <br /><br />This way the secular right achieves the maximal difference from Left (Left is never secular, although always against true religion).<br /><br />Left lies that it is good, and Right say truly that it is evil.baduinhttp://baduin.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-59072256347159155982013-07-12T18:26:50.105+01:002013-07-12T18:26:50.105+01:00@JP - Agreed. While it was reasonable for men of g...@JP - Agreed. While it was reasonable for men of goodwill to be fooled by Leftism in its early days, AT THIS POINT IN HISTORY, knowing what we know, having experienced what we have experienced, there is no excuse for Leftism. <br /><br />In fact, as I often argue, there isn't really any excuse for secular Rightism either, except as a short lived transitional stage to religion. <br /><br />Because the possibility, sustainability (and Goodness) of secular Right societies is as conjectural, theoretical and wishful as are Leftist utopias.<br /><br />Sooner or later, all men of goodwill will find themselves in the position of choosing a religion. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-18070146517572274792013-07-12T17:42:01.830+01:002013-07-12T17:42:01.830+01:00Leftism has all seven sins covered.
Leftism is n...Leftism has all seven sins covered. <br /><br />Leftism is not merely about the stimulation of dishonest pride, but the systematic mobilization of greed and envy, the celebration of lust and gluttony, the indulgence of sloth (from nihilism to apathy to emotional, spiritual and physical laziness is a short journey), and the provocation and direction of wrath against "inequality" and the persons who exemplofy it.<br /><br />Virtuous Leftism is <i>impossible</i>; it cannot be put into practice without sin.<br /><br />Satan himself couldn't have imagined a better system for corrupting the human race.JPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-30291834919599559872013-07-12T14:56:21.958+01:002013-07-12T14:56:21.958+01:00The nominal organizing principle of modern society...The nominal organizing principle of modern society is equality. Since people aren't equal, people who are superior in some way must be artificially humble about it, and people who are inferior in some way must feel artificially better about it, or have "self-esteem". <br /><br />Leftism is about pride for the inferior. Pride was the basic value of pagan society, but at least it was honest pride- an Athenian philosopher, an Olympic agonist or Spartan hoplite would have laughed themselves silly at the idea of a dumb fat kid having, or needing, "self-esteem" rather than rigorous training. <br /><br />Pride is of course in the Christian view the sin of Satan, and thus perhaps the ultimate sin. A society based on real pride- Ancient Rome, Nazi Germany- will be evil, a society based on phony pride- our own, will be evil and ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com