tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post8250982559848288466..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: What is the biological cause of modern Western insanity?Bruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-79814100830380062032018-01-18T19:10:50.022+00:002018-01-18T19:10:50.022+00:00Bruce,
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The secular-Right is merely a ...Bruce,<br /><br />>> <i><br /><br />The secular-Right is merely a part of the secular-left (they are all materialist hedonic systems, based on how to attain happiness-alleviate suffering in mortal life); the only true opposition to Leftism is religion (which has non-worldly, supernatural, non-material aims). <br /><br />The only alternative to Leftism is religion - the only choice is a choice between religions.</i><br /><br />Right: <i>between</i> religions. Indeed I agree completely with everything you say above.Malcolm Pollackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01862930219566326359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-30916549901315595932018-01-18T19:05:05.922+00:002018-01-18T19:05:05.922+00:00Hi Bruce,
>> Consequently, the most-Christi...Hi Bruce,<br /><br />>> <i>Consequently, the most-Christian modern churches (trad Catholics, conservative evangelicals, Mormons) are the least Leftist/ converged.</i><br /><br />That's actually consistent with both of our views: those churches most willing to hold on to the idea of a transcendent, actual God, and so preserve the Earth/Heaven hierarchy, are most resistant to the flattening and immanentization required for the mutation of traditional religion into the secular Leftist cryptoreligion. Catholicism was most naturally resistant to this mutation, as it was deeply and essentially hierarchical even in its earthly structure. Protestantism began by leveling the worldly church (in principle, if not always in practice), and so was a natural starting point for the great <i>Untergang</i> of the sacred.<br /><br />I quite agree with you that real, Godly Christianity, with the apex of the cosmic hierarchy planted firmly in God (as opposed to transgendered athletes, wind turbines, and black people in the movies) is in many ways the polar opposite of Leftism. The new secular cryptoreligion is a dark perversion -- or, exactly as you say, an <i>inversion</i> of genuine religion. My only point is that it came into being as a monstrous <i>mutation</i> of Christianity, not as an independent, reactive creation.<br /><br />So -- despite our differing opinions about the evolutionary lineage of this Bizarro-Church, I think we agree, perhaps, more than you allow for.Malcolm Pollackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01862930219566326359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-65492169966606466392018-01-18T06:33:49.350+00:002018-01-18T06:33:49.350+00:00@Malcolm - I regard that idea as profoundly wrong,...@Malcolm - I regard that idea as profoundly wrong, indeed inverted! <br /><br />Leftism is Not ideologically derived-from Christianity, but Leftism is essentially *anti*-Christian. <br /><br />Or, Leftism is Christian apostasy, not a Christian heresy...<br /><br />Consequently, the most-Christian modern churches (trad Catholics, conservative evangelicals, Mormons) are the least Leftist/ converged. <br /><br />The least-Christian modern churches (such as the Episcopal church, liberal Catholics, Methodists) are the most Leftist.<br /><br />The secuar-Right is merely a part of the secular-left (they are all materialist hedonic systems, based on how to attain happiness-alleviate suffering in mortal life); the only true opposition to Leftism is religion (which has non-worldly, supernatural, non-material aims). <br /><br />The only alternative to Leftism is religion - the only choice is a choice between religions. <br /><br />I have argued this in my books Thought Prison and Addicted to Distraction (available online, linked via the side bar). Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-35892601867101170792018-01-17T23:00:11.218+00:002018-01-17T23:00:11.218+00:00The religion is still there. It's just taken a...The religion is still there. It's just taken an <a href="http://malcolmpollack.com/2018/01/16/on-laicite-and-the-cryptoreligion-of-the-modern-west/" rel="nofollow">insane, occluded form</a>.Malcolm Pollackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01862930219566326359noreply@blogger.com