tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post85324369641557412..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Charles Williams takes classical theology to the limitBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-45787190866311818332014-08-27T10:21:18.395+01:002014-08-27T10:21:18.395+01:00@tgj - I don't understand your point.@tgj - I don't understand your point. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-67441908450554204712014-08-27T09:34:51.194+01:002014-08-27T09:34:51.194+01:00Not in the Gospels?
And this is the condemnation,...Not in the Gospels?<br /><br />And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.tgjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-19710514263537727782014-08-26T21:32:56.707+01:002014-08-26T21:32:56.707+01:00@BB - Well I think it is some of the extra (and mo...@BB - Well I think it is some of the extra (and more complicating) things like being a prescriptive (puritan), authoritarian, patriarchal gerontocracy that have made Anabaptsism so stable. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-65468622778817670592014-08-26T19:55:06.245+01:002014-08-26T19:55:06.245+01:00One would think that a church based on a simple, N...One would think that a church based on a simple, NT faith would be sustainable if only because scripture would provide a base/anchor that is solid and unchanging (I know that Catholics will bring up the issue of authority & interpretation).<br />When I looked at the Anabaptists (a number of years ago) I was impressed. I think maybe it was conservative Mennonites I read about. They seemed to practice a simple faith with active charity but their charity didn’t seem to be showy, do-gooder left-liberal Christianity. When I looked at their faith, I can remember thinking “this seems like the spirit of the NT.”<br />But I guess their pacifism would doom them if they didn’t live around non-pacifists.<br />I do not care much for the Reformed/Calvinist branch of Protestantism.<br />Bruce B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-20512294712613381872014-08-26T18:23:45.879+01:002014-08-26T18:23:45.879+01:00@BB - I think there could be a place for something...@BB - I think there could be a place for something of the sort you describe, which might be much like a mainstream evangelical 'home church' kind of denomination - but minus the Calivinistic residues. And I would regard this as an absolutely fine type of Christian life. But I don't think it makes for a sustainable church - because what it has is fine, but there just isn't enough. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-67505613722339439762014-08-26T17:25:20.742+01:002014-08-26T17:25:20.742+01:00Bruce, I’m not trying to put words into your mouth...Bruce, I’m not trying to put words into your mouth (you didn’t mention the LDS) but this could be used to argue for something like a simple, NT-based Protestantism as opposed to the need for a restored gospel and additional revelation. Something like certain Anabaptist groups, for example.Bruce B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-18548054148646679852014-08-24T20:07:04.456+01:002014-08-24T20:07:04.456+01:00Or the doctrine of Hell could be not quite right. ...Or the doctrine of Hell could be not quite right. It might not last forever. That would solve the problem in a trice. <br /><br />Indeed, classical metaphysics would suggest that it can't: Hell is alienation from God, who is the source of all being; so utter alienation from God would be utter privation of being - would, that is to say, be inactuality, complete personal extinction. Kristorhttp://orthosphere.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-40533712419817374722014-08-23T16:17:15.516+01:002014-08-23T16:17:15.516+01:00"it is not a necessary part of Christianity; ..."it is not a necessary part of Christianity; because we don't see it in the Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles or the accounts in the Epistles"<br /><br />Similarly, how many holy, rank-and-file Christians believe their prayers have no effect on God (who according to classical theology cannot be changed as He is perfect, simple, and changeless)? Or, how many invoke the backward-somersault-like theological justifications given in standard classical theology for various kinds of prayer?ajbhttp://makingsenseofchristianity.comnoreply@blogger.com