tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post9022465460313103521..comments2024-03-28T21:32:26.550+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: Implications of fields of influenceBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-34471022895526954702011-09-28T02:50:46.579+01:002011-09-28T02:50:46.579+01:00This is exactly in agreement with my own spontaneo...This is exactly in agreement with my own spontaneous experience in life, Bruce. I have never heard of Sheldrake or his work. But now I will read his website and from there order some books.<br /><br />It is absolutely possible to feel "outside oneself," as it were. I'm excited to encounter a serious discussion of this (and not mere new age-y hooey, of which I've also read plenty).Danielhttp://outofsleep.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-64528535844618800982011-09-27T14:37:00.048+01:002011-09-27T14:37:00.048+01:00Re Sheldrake - Presence of the Past - might be of ...Re Sheldrake - Presence of the Past - might be of particular interest to those trying to understand TraditionCantillonbloghttp://cantillonblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-41388645478422439962011-09-27T14:36:16.379+01:002011-09-27T14:36:16.379+01:00Better explanation of socionomics from the comment...Better explanation of socionomics from the comment of a big NY bank (quoting Prechter):-<br /><br />"According to Gallup, 49% of those polled thought the federal government an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms or ordinary citizens. That's an amazing poll reading [IMHO] especially as we believe in the basic premise of Socionomics, which theorizes that social mood determines the character of social activity - The essence of the socionomic hypothesis is that fluctuations in social mood—waves of optimism and pessimism—are a natural result of human association and have consequences in social action. Social mood is not conscious, rational and objectively reactive but unconscious, non-rational and subjectively active. While people almost universally believe that the character of social events determines social mood, socionomics recognizes that the causality is the reverse: social mood determines the character of social activity. The causality of social mood is unidirectional; there is no feedback loop of events back to social mood. Events do stimulate brief emotional reactions, but they are transient and independent of social mood. And that as Robert Prechter writes, "stock indexes are the benchmark sociometers because they are broad in scope, contain plenty of clean data and rapidly reflect social mood"Cantillonbloghttp://cantillonblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-67716620836127321882011-09-27T07:27:49.324+01:002011-09-27T07:27:49.324+01:00@WmJas - Probably there is enough here:
http://ww...@WmJas - Probably there is enough here:<br /><br />http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html<br /><br />plus some fairly detailed talks on YouTube. <br /><br />Other than that, The Rebirth of Nature would be of most interest to you, I think - with a history of ideas approach.Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-55841838399403054312011-09-27T06:52:24.235+01:002011-09-27T06:52:24.235+01:00Which Sheldrake book would you recommend that some...Which Sheldrake book would you recommend that someone unfamiliar with his theories begin with?Wm Jashttp://wmjas.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-3881536617669529002011-09-26T17:35:49.332+01:002011-09-26T17:35:49.332+01:00One route to being able to appreciate the influenc...One route to being able to appreciate the influence and impact of one important kind of field on society is the socionomic theory of Robert Prechter. He has had a mixed record as a pure forecaster but, having applied his work for some years to the study of society and to financial markets, I do believe there is something to it.<br /><br />Under the socionomic thesis there is a shared spirit (called 'mood', a name which is at the same time both enlightening and obscuring)that grows and declines according to certain rules of structure. This spirit is reflected immediately in financial markets and, with a lag, in human action - in commerce, in politics and in art. When confidence is rising the stock market rallies, and 8ish months later we see a boom in capital expenditure, hiring and consumption. When confidence is declining, stocks rally, and with a lag we see a decline in capex, hiring and consumption.<br /><br />There is much more to this, and I cannot do justice to this here. Prechter's two volume thesis on Socionomics is at some point worth a read (one may be able to read parts for free via Google Books, particularly if going via a US proxy).<br /><br />He can come across sometimes as a very talented charlatan, but I think that would be an unfair assessment. He overstates the usefulness of his ideas and perhaps the originality of his contribution, but he does have something there. Serious investors do take his work seriously, although it is not something everyone is ready to discuss in public.Cantillonbloghttp://cantillonblog.comnoreply@blogger.com