tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post9160293015025253758..comments2024-03-28T13:47:00.644+00:00Comments on Bruce Charlton's Notions: The Global Establishment really do intend to collapse the world economy. It is happening NowBruce Charltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-34868025508063308482020-03-18T14:46:27.787+00:002020-03-18T14:46:27.787+00:00Apparently *None* of those who went onto ITU/ vent...Apparently *None* of those who went onto ITU/ ventilators (in disease 'epicentre' Cremona, nr Milan, Lombardy - at least) has survived.<br /><br /> https://www.channel4.com/news/inside-one-intensive-care-team-fighting-coronavirus-in-cremona-italy<br /><br />My point is that what is presented as bad news is actually good news. <br /><br />This means that ITU/ ventilation is completely ineffective, therefore *unneccessary*.<br /><br />Hence no problem about the corvids, except for the very low (and localised) mortality rate, overwhelmingly restricted to the very old and already ill (plus, maybe, a few extra East Asians).<br /><br />We in The West aren't going to 'run out of' intensive medical facilites, since they make No Difference At All to survival. Those with severe disease (very old, multiple pathologies) should be kept comfortable (good palliative care) as was and ought-to-be. <br /><br />So we can all relax and dismantle all the pseudo-precautions and undo all the newly-grabbed totalitarian powers... Ha!<br /><br />The thing is - even if deaths were ten times, a hundred times higher than reported - it is still trivial; just normal (in the kinds of people who are dying fom or with the birdemic).<br /><br />What seems to be happening (I infer) is that old sick people get pneumonia and die of it. That has been and still is the normal way for people to die, it happens to millions a day, at home, in residential homes, in hospitals...; and compared to most alternatives, it is a good death.<br /><br />But currently if they have the birdemic; such people are put into isolation, intensive therapy and ventilated. They die anyway, a while later.<br /><br />However, this is a bad death, all round - especially for friends and relations.<br /><br />So - with the birdemic terror, we have replaced natural good deaths that do not get reported; with artificial bad deaths that get (selectively) reported all over the world. <br /><br />That's all. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-55436998077950668172020-03-18T14:34:50.043+00:002020-03-18T14:34:50.043+00:00As I understand it, the establishment is trying to...As I understand it, the establishment is trying to avoid the overwhelming of medical systems that would occur if huge numbers of dying old people were thrust on them in a *very short period of time.* The virus does seem to have the potential to make such a situation happen, so it's not clear to me that what the establishment is doing is completely insane. Huge numbers of old people dying all at once wouldn't be without a lot of other consequences as well. That really seems to be the concern--a large number of deaths per unit time.Nathaniel Kolokowskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-44249540188506363632020-03-17T18:58:46.106+00:002020-03-17T18:58:46.106+00:00@ Bruce - That sounds like it was a good conversat...@ Bruce - That sounds like it was a good conversation. Francis Bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063224017320651978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-1124594846466755662020-03-17T18:05:56.880+00:002020-03-17T18:05:56.880+00:00@Frank - I had an interesting and helpful conversa...@Frank - I had an interesting and helpful conversation today with commenter David. We realised that the situation is actually unique for each person, and that we must each resist the pressure to regard ourselves as just part of mass statistics. Whatever happens to us individually (and the people we love) will be a very specific situation, with specific challenges and outcomes. We both felt that when extreme or crucial situations arise, as they surely will; we will be given what support we need and the clarity to understand what we need to do *next* - so long as we are alert and open to these matters and retain faith and trust. Long term planning is unlikely to be relevant, and the information is not available - the most important thing is to be aware of our actual, current situation. I pointed out Pastor Richard Wurmbrand's point that when it comes to God's personal love and concern for us, we need confident faith and not doubt. Never doubt - it is corrosive: it kills. Many things may be doubted with some benefit, but not that. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-49683694285838943882020-03-17T17:41:17.848+00:002020-03-17T17:41:17.848+00:00@ Bruce - Yes, I agree that it is deliberate. I ha...@ Bruce - Yes, I agree that it is deliberate. I have referred to it as sabotage myself. But what really makes it malevolent for me its totality right from the get-go. They aren't waiting for banks to fail or loans to go bad to harm small businesses - they're choking them off right at the beginning. Think of the hardship these small/family businesses are already facing - most of them will be belly up long before the really major stuff hits. <br /><br />Trying times are coming - even for those who understand that soul damnation is the other side's end game. Which is why what you said a couple of days ago is so vitally important. How should we deal with this? The answer is with hope, faith, and love. Francis Bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063224017320651978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-66582273298563150382020-03-17T16:49:59.502+00:002020-03-17T16:49:59.502+00:00@Frank - My impression is different. The official ...@Frank - My impression is different. The official organs of The System - Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, the Economist - are either covering-up the certainty of an impossible to reverse collapse in The System... Or else they have become so crazed by lying to themselves (as well as everyone else) that they can no longer perceive the obvious. <br /><br />The deliberate destruction of the world economy is accelerating, daily. As the vast numbers of dead bodies relentlessly *fail* to pile-up; the pretence that this has anything at all to do with stopping the birdemic has gone from flimsy to insane (preventing peple from walking around out of doors, even in the countryside, for a disease spread only by physical contact!) - there is no logic or proportion. <br /><br />As I said - this is a deliberate destruction; apparently planned for a while, but being implemented for the expedient reason of the corvids. <br /><br />The main destruction is aimed at men's souls. We must love Big Brother even as he engineers our slaughter - indeed we must demand than he slaughter us and then thank him when he does. Only thus will we be damned. And apparently, so far, this plan is proceeding without hitch. <br /><br />What will be will be. But the least we can do is to recognise malign intent when we see it and feel it. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-29793476715909906362020-03-17T16:28:55.687+00:002020-03-17T16:28:55.687+00:00The complete suspension of nearly all activity at ...The complete suspension of nearly all activity at the 'real' world level of the economy has the potential to make this meltdown we're facing a particularly vicious one. Small, independent companies and family-run businesses at the ground level might not be able to survive another couple of weeks of virus lockdown mode. And this ground level freeze is global! We really must stop and think about that for a moment. That didn't happen in 2008/2009. Sure, many people suffered, but you could still go on vacation or go out for dinner in the evening. Not now.<br /><br />For its part, the System appears to be engaged in the same sort of action it took during the 2008/2009 crisis - credit expansion, debt creation, and money printing. Interestingly, these efforts have fizzled so far. But even if they do work, even if the Establishment does manage to re-inflate its overvalued asset bubbles, will it be willing to bail out the smaller businesses and family businesses that are currently being crushed, not just in one or two countries, but the world over? Probably not. <br /><br />I'm no economist, but I suspect government and central bank measures to save the System will fail this time around.<br /><br />The Establishment has always valued money over people, but they are currently pulling a grand moral inversion. Crashing the economy will be their way of showing the world that they actually value people more than money. Francis Bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063224017320651978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-40929729883917790302020-03-17T15:56:58.455+00:002020-03-17T15:56:58.455+00:00@i - Well, he's a spirit person, and (by my Mo...@i - Well, he's a spirit person, and (by my Mormon theology) even as spirits people are either a man or a woman, and that can't change. On the other hand, what he may *say* he is, as Father of Lies, is a different matter!Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4683970826895755480.post-52888438193465778492020-03-17T14:47:36.179+00:002020-03-17T14:47:36.179+00:00Here is a little anecdote for your Tuesday morning...Here is a little anecdote for your Tuesday morning: "They" is the devil. And he is called "they" because he is a transsexual.David Earlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06090067437261800696noreply@blogger.com