Saturday 8 July 2023

The cause of our current insanity is perfectly simple - Spiritual atheism

 There have been innumerable books and articles on the causes of the current literal insanity. But The underlying cause is simply Atheism.

To explain a little, the cause is atheism - de facto atheism and its consequences.

De facto, because nearly all 'religious' people nowadays are Not; are actually materialists, even in their religion. 

And the consequence is that most religious people are as bad atheists as the explicit, strident variety.

Atheism is a Spiritual state, more than a belief. It is very difficult and unusual Not to be a spiritual atheist... To think and live on the basis that there is No God, and that this world and life are Not an ongoing creation.

And That is The problem we should be working on...


Bruce Charlton said...

@William. Thanks.

I find it is extremely difficult to avoid being a spiritual atheist. My only real progress is to know that I am failing badly for 99% of the time.

Bruce Charlton said...

I just realized my clumsy fingers deleted - instead of publishing - William W's comment, which said: "A hole in one."

William Wright (WW) said...

I think you may be misdiagnosing the patient.

If the simple issue was living under the basis that there is no God and no ongoing creation, than the equally simple solution would be for God to reveal himself and to disabuse people of this notion. Problem solved.

The stories of Jesus and also his messengers being sent at various times, in an effort to do exactly that, and yet still being rejected by many - in fact, actively rebelled against - further reinforce (to me at least) that atheism, even as you articulate it as being a state, is not the core issue. There is something deeper.

I think you have hit closer to the mark in some of your other writings, where it less a question of believing or acting as if there is no God, but rather in not wanting or rejecting what God is offering.

Consequently, our insanity is an actively chosen one, a result of people desiring what is not God. And this rebellion against God may go back a very long time indeed for some souls.

This situation is even worse than the one you present, then, because in the case that God does actually decide to reveal himself more fully, the insanity for many and for this world would actually increase (though for those who do desire what God offers the situation would be much, much better for them than it is currently!)

ted said...

I wonder if it's as simple as spiritual atheism, as I know many so-called "spiritual" people who subscribe to leftism, but these folks have made God as a silent partner. Perhaps we have lost the reverence and awe for God, and have placed man above (or equal to) Him.

Stephen Macdonald said...

Recent history demonstrated with shocking clarity how most men and women will think whatever they're programmed to think by any entity that they perceive as a legitimate authority. Historically the church was so perceived. Today the "MSM" comprise de facto authority, and whomever / whatever controls this cluster has successfully and thoroughly expunged God. Atheism is now the default. This is primarily the implicit atheism of simply assuming God doesn't exist (e.g., in 100% of programming for children, unless it is explicitly produced by and for Christians). God is simply never acknowledged. Explicit atheism of the Dawkins variety is much more rare, and much less dangerous since Dawkins et al lay bare their "not even wrong" axioms for all to see.

“Woe to the rebellious children,” declares the Lord,
“Who execute a plan, but not Mine,
And make an alliance, but not of My Spirit,
In order to add sin to sin;
-- Isaiah 30:1

Yet hope remains that the UK (and her children, US/Can/Aus) might somehow recover

I will heal their apostasy,
I will love them freely,
For My anger has turned away from them.
-- Hosea 14:4

Bruce Charlton said...

WW- What you say is true as well, not instead of.

ted- properly understood, Leftism just is secularism here and now.

SM - Until the modern era, it was impossible for the masses to be atheist - theism was inevitable, built in. Consciousness has changed and now Men must choose God. But just choosing is still spiritual atheism, in terms of spiritual stance and experience. The insanity is not cured unless the belief is being-lived, and only while that is the case.

William Wildblood said...

As WW says, atheism in the modern world is a matter of will not intellect. Perhaps it always was but the opportunity to exercise that will and not be condemned for it is much more present now.

Michael Dyer said...

I think this is what is meant by the word “worldliness” in the Bible, the basic attitude that this world is All There Is.

It’s a natural human tendency. It is also clearly a foolish one, and I’m not high horsing anyone. Ironically it does creep into the spiritual life where we try to rely on worldly means to get to otherworldly aims.

a_probst said...

"Until the modern era, it was impossible for the masses to be atheist..."

Yes. With Ptolemaic geo-centrism, even the materialistically inclined were living in a universe that could not possibly originate by chance (a hot sun orbiting a rocky globe, a sky full of planets and remote stars whirling around that globe in only a day). But after Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton the sun could be seen as a molten orb and the planets cooling pig-irons flung off from it. None of the aforementioned scientists were atheists but they could not control others' conclusions.

To some, a moving Earth put materialism on firm ground and may have been what they were hoping for.

whiteknight32be said...

Spiritual Insanity in my opinion goes together with and is caused by the "level" of techo-patho-cracy. It may well be used by Luciferian/Ahrimanic/Sorathic sources - longterm, who knows how long this has been going on in this Universe (and maybe even other Universes) - to undermine the spark of Spirit that is naturally ours, but which has been under siege for aeons.

What is happening today no doubt also happened in ancient Atlantis,to just name one era; there it was a sort of techno-patho-cracy as well. It only is not very good documented, mainly myths still exist. In those days there was a tiny minority of the population who knew what was happening and took action. One still could get away physically in those days. Now it is so much harder because (the misuse of) technocracy in so many ways has poisoned most of the human population, in very diverse ways.