Tuesday 12 November 2013

Note to the secular Right - cynical selfish hedonistic individualism is not a reaction against the Left, but *exactly* what the Left wants

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Again and again I have read a response from the secular Right which regards itself as a defiant 'I'll show 'em - but which is in reality exactly what the Left wants.

Because what the Left wants is not any particular state of affairs, not any particular set of social arrangements (such as a society dominated by women or feminized values or 'other' races or some kind of inversion of heterosexual married family life...).

What the Left wants is destruction of the Good - and it only uses the above causes as temporary battering rams against strong institutional sources of Good such as Christianity, marriage, the family, patriotism, decency, hard work, altruism, truthfulness, beauty and so on.

So when a 'manosphere' secular Rightist responds to the degraded state of the current sexual arena with 'threats' of using women purely for gratification, of boycotting marriage, of avoiding responsibility etc - the fact is that this is not a threat to the Left, but instead precisely what the Left wants from them.

When the Left corrupts the churches, the military, the police, and the nation - and conservatives first lose faith in, then turn against, these institutions - then they must not delude themselves into supposing that this is any kind of act of rebellion against the Left; or anything hostile to the plans of the Left: it is exactly what the Left wants.

It is Leftism in action, in a refined form. 

In fact, the Right cannot rebel by being more selfish, it cannot really rebel at all - because rebellion is negative and intrinsically Leftist; the Right can only create by courageous acts of faith and love; against the odds; based on transcendental Hope.

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5 comments:

Adam G. said...

Very insightful.

Of course, doing what your enemy has driven you to do is still sometimes the rational course. Sometimes its best to retreat, though you shouldn't kid yourself that the retreat is volitional.

Samson J. said...

So when a 'manosphere' secular Rightist responds to the degraded state of the current sexual arena with 'threats' of using women purely for gratification, of boycotting marriage, of avoiding responsibility etc - the fact is that this is not a threat to the Left, but instead precisely what the Left wants from them.

I think this may tie in to what I was saying recently about an attitude of healthy "defiance".

In general, whatever it is clear that the Left wants you to do, you should just bloody not do it. And I think to an extent many of these "secular Rightists" have the attitude right but the interpretation wrong. If it's clear that the Left wants to entrap you in an unhealthy, unfair marital relationship, for example, the solution is not rejection of marriage altogether but to defiantly build a true, good marriage.

JP said...

It is a lose-lose situation.

Participate in evil, destructive, Leftist-dominated organizations and you lose. And yes, they DO want you to join the organizations they have corrupted (on their terms, of course).

Withdraw into selfishness and hedonism, and you lose.

The question in each case must be, how do I lose the least?

Bruce Charlton said...

@JP - Not quite right.

To be defeated by superior force is no disgrace. But to be defeated and then pretend that it was *really* an act of defiance, and that *really* you have won -

Well, that it to be defeated twice-over.

Ben said...

How can so many intelligent, well read people, who are also open to the idea that there is something terribly wrong, be so close to understanding yet so far?

Very frustrating. Especially the pride that shows when they make grandiose statements that are believed to be a rebellion to, yet are actually a help for the left.

Heartiste and KrauserPUA are the worst in this regard that I know.