The main reason why most would-be deep discussion (as well as superficial argument) is a waste is... Metaphysics.
Metaphysics is our fundamental assumptions concerning the nature of reality; and when these assumptions are wrong, all answers will be wrong - even if they are superficially correct.
All answers will be wrong because they all trend to wrongness; they will be wrong because all the answers will constellate around the wrong assumptions, making it appear that the wong assumption is true (when, in fact, the facts are all built around the wrong assumptions).
The constellation of wrong facts, the patterns they make, will make us that they are true; when they are actually all wrong, but all wrong in the same kind of way - because rooted in the same false assumptions.
And none of this will ever change, or can ever change, for so long as people are unwilling to expose and acknowledge their own basic assumptions.
Nobody else will do this for us! If we don't do it ourselves, it won't be done.
Anybody can do it for themselves, simply by asking why, and then why and why again, we believe X - and sincerely answering their own query.
But you have to want to do it.
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