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If we could have both, that would be the best, that would be great.
But from where we are, or from where we are heading - our choice, I fear, will be: one or t'other.
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Right wing bloggers use support for Western Civilization as a platform to try and unite the Christian and secular Right - but the two movements are pulling in opposite directions on this issue.
At bottom, the secular Right think Christianity is nonsense - useful nonsense, perhaps; but nonsense is clearly not their priority: they support Civilization over nonsense.
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The Christian Right mostly love Western Civilization; but, after all, Civilizations come and Civilizations go - they are finite: they always come to an end.
Civilizations never last very long.
Not compared with an immortal soul.
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